Thursday, April 5, 2012

Studio update, or rant in this case...

Hi All,

This is the promised update on the shipping of the Panic en la Playa prints and comments on flipping that I promised earlier. It's a bit long, but something I need to get off my chest, so hang with me.

I'm currently finishing up my prints for the "Class of 72" show in London so en la Playa prints will be slightly delayed as I get all this out the door. As you folks know, we always throw in some extra goodies for being patient.

I'm also dealing with some issues being raised by people who purchased multiple prints. I have a strict policy that if anyone orders multiples of a print, after being warned "one per person", I cancel ALL the orders they placed. That is exactly what we are wading through right now. Due to my store software I cannot physically limit the number placed in the cart or stop people from ordering multiple times. We work on an honor system and it seems some people are not very honorable these days.

Another issue, before the servers had time to cool down from the surge of orders coming through, flippers already had prints listed on ebay for $250.00. That's a no-no at Drowning Creek. I'm a VERO member of ebay and we will be banning the sale of any of my prints where I see people buying strictly to flip. I will be ending the present auctions for any of my Panic prints shortly. For the flippers who are taking advantage of people by buying and flipping, I may not be able to stop you from flipping my work, but I can, and will, make it more difficult. Once I can positively confirm you are flipping, you will be permanently banned from buying from me. I know you flippers are using multiple aliases, business names, different IP addresses, paypal accounts and email addresses. I won't be able to sort through them all, but as I discover them they will be added to the list. If these aliases violate any site's or services "terms of conditions", like Facebook or paypal, they will be reported so that these entities can take the actions needed.

Another peeve of mine is reading flippers comments stating "we made their art career, we are the reason they are selling out runs". Bullshit. When I do a run of 1000 prints and 100 are scooped up by people planning to flip them, there is another 900 that fans bought to hang on the wall or put in their collection. Those are the people who allow me to be a successful poster artist, not the leeches making money off the sweat of my back. These people make their money at the expense of my collectors and fans of the bands. When I do an Artist Edition release I could charge $100 per print, but I just can't do that to my collectors. It's not fair to make people pay overly excessive prices because of the actions of a few.

I know you flippers are reading this, so stop being delusional. You are nowhere near as important to the poster market as you think you are. You do not provide a service as you so like to tout. You are the pimple on the rock poster collecting scene's ass. You're an unnecessary pain. Most of the artists in the scene despise your lack of ethics, morals and attitudes. Sometimes, You make us not want to step up and do what we love. I equate you with the same asses who have destroyed Wall Street and the economy. You have no morals when it comes to making money, only greed. It's all about you. Selfish pricks, every last one of you.

I do art for fans and collectors not people who strictly buy prints to make money off me. I do art for honest people who want to hang a piece of art they love on the wall. You flippers could care less about the prints you are buying to flip. It's just stacks of money to you. I will do my best to shut you down any chance I get, from educating bands, promoters and venues as to how to limit their sales, open ended editions, ending auctions, to working with other artists to to document your alisases. If need be I'll be filing legal paperwork if I have justification and the situation deems it necessary. You are bottom feeding scum. You are in the same league as scalpers, another blight on the music industry.

A short story....Last year at Panic Red Rocks a merch vendor was pulling some shenanigans. He was telling people he was sold out, but he would sell them his "personal copy" that he pulled from under the table - for a tidy sum. I got text messages from fans at the venue about it. This is not going unnoticed. I worked with Panic to root this guy out. It was not Panic's merch people. Red Rocks has their own merch staff. Panic was not happy about it all. I'm sure this is happening at other venues where the bands do not handle merch themselves because I have had posters missing before they ever went on sale. Once again, Red Rocks was one of those venues. I had #1-50 of the last Trey poster I created disappear out of box that had been shipped to RR's offices. The box had been neatly resealed. The culprit put my reputation at risk with the band by making them think I had shorted the run or kept the first 50 for myself. Now you know another reason I detest these bottom feeders. Some are straight up thieves.

End of story. Now you flippers can go crawl back under that rock from which you came and talk smack about me...

I guess now that I spewed all that venom out of my system, I would like to end all this on a more upbeat note and tell the collectors and fans that do support my, and other artists work, that we love you dearly. We deeply respect your support, for without YOU, this whole scene would not be possible. I'm sorry these damned flippers are ruining such a fun adventure for us all. Greed is a very ugly thing.

If you attended Playa and did not get a poster because of the flippers, send me an email to and we will put you on the list. There will be a few available now that some orders have been canceled. I will see what I can do to hook you up. No promises, but I will try.

Take care, and thanks for hanging in there through this diatribe.

Ethics is knowing the difference between what you have a right to do and what is right to do. ~ Potter Stewart

Much love,

1 comment:

  1. I know I'm not going to change your mind, but you just called me a "pimple on the rock poster collecting scene's ass," "an unnecessary pain," a "selfish prick," and unethical, so I need to at least present my side.

    I have great respect for the artists whose work I enjoy and admire. I don't buy art from artists who are opposed to having their work resold. I don't use aliases and I don't buy more than one copy of a print where quantites are limited to one per person. When I buy a print to sell, I wait in line or on a website just like everyone else and I have the same odds of buying a print as everyone else. And, sometimes, those pieces turn out to be so awesome that they wind up in my collection.

    I have spent over $3000 on art prints since the first of this year, and I have recouped $2000 through sales. I'm not out here making a salary off the backs of artists I admire, I'm trying to fund a hobby I very much enjoy.

    The thing is, I don't think I'm an exception. I'm a member of several poster collecting groups, and almost everyone in those groups are ardent fans, most with collections far larger than mine. And most of them sell of trade prints to get the art they want.

    Now, to address a few specific points:

    1. "Due to my store software I cannot physically limit the number placed in the cart or stop people from ordering multiple times."

    You need to consider a different cart system. I order from plenty of places that restrict the number of an item you can add to your cart or prohibit the same person from purchasing multiple times.

    2. "You are in the same league as scalpers, another blight on the music industry."

    I don't see how two can possibly equate. Ticket scalpers ("brokers") often have the ability to buy large blocks of the best seats for an event before they are available to the public. I don't know of any poster flippers who are analogous to Gold Coast Tickets.

    3. "You are nowhere near as important to the poster market as you think you are."

    Not to an established artist such as yourself, no. But James White (Signalnoise) is a new star because his Drive print became instantly valuable. Flippers who bought it took a chance on new talent and it paid off. I honestly believe that there are more people making a living selling your type of art than at any point in history, and I think flippers absolutely contribute to their success. Do you think Mr. Brainwash would sell 100 copies of a $1000 print in under a minute, like he did last week, if people weren't confident that print would instantly appreciate in value?

    4. "I had #1-50 of the last Trey poster I created disappear out of box that had been shipped to RR's offices."

    That's outright theft and has almost no bearing on the topic at hand.

    5. "You do not provide a service as you so like to tout."

    I have been a seller on eBay for 13 years. I have sold thousands of items. In all that time, I have never received a single (NOT ONE) negative feedback. In fact, I have received comments that I saved Christmas, or completed a collection, or found someone their holy grail. I send goods everywhere in the world, often to places the original sellers won't ship to. I use my time and put my money at risk and I absolutely provide a service to my customers.

    And, you know, in all the ranting and name-calling, that's the one name I didn't see you use: customer. People who pay you money for a product are your customers. Sure, set whatever restrictions on your original sales that you want. Ban people who use aliases to buy multiple copies. Refund people on your personal "block list." But don't hurl insults at people who have potentially spent hundreds or thousands of dollars on your work over the years.

    Anyway, I fully understand your position. I just wanted to present the other side. Thanks for reading.


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